Anastasia / Anna Anderson

Princess Anastasia before the assassination.


IN FEBRUARY 1920, two years after the execution of the Russian Czar and his family, a young woman attempted suicide by jumping off a bridge in Berlin. She was rescued, but when she arrived at hospital she had no proof of identity on her and would not reveal her name. The hospital sent her to an insane asylum where she was recognised as the Czar’s daughter, Grand Duchess Tatiana. The woman denied that she was Tatiana, but over time revealed that she was actually his other daughter, the Duchess Anastasia. She explained that the bayonets of the Communist death squad soldiers had been blunt and she had survived the assassination attempt. One of the soldiers who came to remove the bodies noticed that she was still alive and spirited her away to Romania. She had come to Berlin to find her aunt, Princess Irene, but fear of not being recognised led to her taking such desperate measures. The woman adopted the name Anna Anderson, and spent much of her life trying to prove she was Anastasia. When news of her appearance first spread, one of Alexandra’s ladies-in-waiting visited the hospital, but Anderson kept her head covered with blankets so the woman declared her a fake. Similarly, Princess Irene met Anderson and refuted her claims, although in private it is said she was not so sure, and her son Sigismund actually declared that he thought Anderson was Anastasia. The community of European monarchies were generally undecided. The Czar’s mistress, Mathilde Kschessinka, believed Anderson was the young princess, and Pierre Guillard, Anastasia’s former tutor, also initially declared his support before changing his mind. The family of another court employee – the monarch’s doctor Eugene Botkin – were utterly convinced of Anderson’s true royal lineage, particularly as she could talk in detail about personal correspondences between the young princesses and Botkin’s children.

In attitude, Anderson certainly behaved like a princess. She was said to be demanding and arrogant, and could be consumed by fits of rage. She spoke excellent English, French and German, and could fully understand Russian although she refused to speak it. She also had scars on her body that matched her execution claims, and facial experts argued that she looked very similar to Anastasia. She had similar physical deformities to the young princess, and calligraphic experts said their handwriting was identical. Anderson was also said to have an amazing knowledge of royal affairs. She revealed that Anastasia’s uncle, Grand Duke Ernst of Hesse, had secretly visited the Russian monarchy in 1916 when the two families had actually been at war. This fact was only categorically proven in 1966, but Ernst always denied the claims. It has been suggested that Ernst started circulating another theory which was that Anderson was actually a Polish factory worker named Franziska Schanzkowski.

People started to claim that Schanzkowski disappeared only a day before Anderson’s appearance in Berlin. It was said that Anderson’s scars had arisen from a time when Schanzkowski had dropped a live grenade whilst working at an armaments factory. However, Anderson was small and frail, whereas Schanzkowski was raised on a farm and supposedly had a very stocky build. Anderson continually tried to prove her heritage, but she never succeeded conclusively in a court of law. In late 1968 she married a wealthy American called John Manahan, and she died of pneumonia in 1984. Her body was cremated, but advances in DNA testing meant her death was not the end of the saga. In 1991, the remains of eight people were found in Siberia. Forensic testing suggests the corpses of Nicholas, Alexandra and three of their children were among the bodies. British scientists compared their DNA with samples of Anderson’s hair, and found no match. However, Anderson did seem to have extremely similar DNA results to blood samples taken from the grand-nephew of Franziska Schanzkowski. So it appears the mystery of Anna Anderson has been put to rest. Except for one thing. When Russian authorities uncovered the royal bodies in 1991, two corpses were missing. One was the Czar’s son Alexei. The other was his youngest daughter, Anastasia.

72 comments:

Anonymous said...

I hope this story can be concluded now that the bodies of the last two children have been found and identified by DNA labs all over the world. See recent news stories for more.

x803xkiller said...

i think anna anderson is anastasia. not everything can be proven by science and the obvious facts are undeniable. they just HAPPEN to not find her body, and anna anderson just HAPPENS to have the same scars, bone misplacement in her right foot, does the same exact things in the morning, look like anastasia, and come on, ANAstasia, ANAa anderson, its so obvious anyone with an iq above retard would see it.

Anonymous said...

DNA proved that anastasia was indeed murdered.

THe bones that were missing were those of alexei, anastasia's little brother.

Anonymous said...

There is absolutely no doubt that Anastasia was murdered with her family and that Anna Anderson was really Franziska Schanzkowski. The two missing children were discovered in 2007 and identified through DNA testing. Also, DNA proved that Anderson was Franziska, even though you don't even need a DNA test to know this because the resemblance is pretty obvious.

Voyagefan said...

Personally, I think that Anna Anderson was Anastasia, but I'll have to do some more research to fully conclude my opinions. Either it really was her, or this was one giant trick played by aliens. XD

Anonymous said...

i am on and off researching this and only little proof of her escaping and my friend says also and if any one has any comment in which helps on the subject in any way

Anonymous said...

Princess Anastasia is not Anderson. Princess Anastasia died in the Execution. She was partially cremated, and her body parts were scattered later. Go to this URL to find out more. www.dnai.org/d/ Hope this helps!

Anonymous said...

I think, after several searches, (and 3 years of evidence) that I can conclude Anna Anderson was indeed Anastasia. The reason I looked into this topic was because my grand-parents last name is Anderson. Ethier way, scars dont matter, DNA does, but the bone misplacement does infact signify as does the looks and name creativity and her bayonete story that includes the reason of why she was "attempting" suiside, but I ask you, do you believe DNA results or just certain facts?
Signcerely,
An honest 13year old.

Anonymous said...

Well I'm not sure if Anna Anderson was Anastasia. If they found two bodies missing (Alexei and Anastasia's) then that either mean that they escaped or something else happened. I believe that Anna was a fake. Sure there was some similarities but that doesn't mean that she was without a doubt Anastasia. Besides Anna's DNA didn't even match any family member. I so badly want to believe that poor little girl didn't die with the rest of the family. I HOPE SHE ESCAPED AND IS NOT ANNA.
from
A happy twelve year old

Anonymous said...

Okay i know some people have other says in this topic but don't you want to say that she didn't horribly die with the rest and I guess maybe she could be anna but I hope not because then she doesn't die from the disease that she gets later on.
from
A happy twelve year old

Anonymous said...

I agree with all of you folks who believe Anna Anderson was really Anastasia. We cannot always go by evidence and sometimes we have to go by facts. We will never know why the DNA matched up with Fransika, but folks, hospitals do not keep your DNA! They would throw it all away. They tested her DNA in 1944 and she died in 1984. We all know that DNA testing back then was not top notch, how do we know if someone secertly got in touch with Franziska family and took a piece of their DNA but then lied to the world and said it was Anna Anderson's when it really was not. We will never know the true story of the DNA testing.

Anonymous said...

I'm no scientist and I know that the evidence says that Anna is not Anastasia. We know that science can be wrong. What if she did survive? People say that only parts on Anastasia were found what if Anastasia survived but lost a limb of something. I'm a teeneage writer and my imagination can get carried off sometimes but it's an amazing coincidence.
Curious

Anonymous said...

I think: Anastasia and Alexei (her younger brother) were holding jewels which protected them from the guns (they reflect the bullets). They ran away and somewhere Alexei got injured and, because his blod doesn't clot, died. He told Anastasia that he wanted to be buried so he was. His body was never found. Anastasia (Anna Anderson) was later found.
As for Franziska Shanzkowska, I think the people who tried to kill Anastasia's family were angry because she escaped and tried to get back at her (Anastasia) by making it seem like she is someone else (Franziska). That way, even though she isn't dead, its good enough for them. That's what I think because how else would Anna know such small details about Anastasia's life? And it's almost impossible to forge someonelses handwriting. And the DNA test could have been wrong; humans aren't perfect!!!

-A smart 12 year old girl

Anonymous said...

Speeking of humans not being perfect, I, the smart twelve year old girl, missed 3 commas and 2 apostrophes (unless I proofread wrong). My language arts teacher would not be proud... But my forensics teacher would be. :)

Anonymous said...

I believe that it could have been possible that Anderson was Anastasia. I don't know how, but I don't believe that scientist are always right. Why did Anderson have the same scars and bone fractures that Anastasia did and why did the people who came to see her believe that she was Anastasia? Also , why wasn't her body found? I might be wrong but sometimes you gotta look at the facts , not the evidence.

Anonymous said...

you all have very good points to this all, however your age is what is keeping you from seeing that if u did proper reasearch, you wil see that the Tsar was 1st cousins with King George the 5th, the closets living realtive that was tested to the remains of the family buried underneath the road was Prince Phillip duke of Endinburg.they discovered that the bodies were infact the Tsar and his wife and 3 of children. Later when the last 2 were discovered they could not say for sure which of the sisters could be with their brother since medical examiners who conducted the examinations on all of the bodies could only determine age of the bones by measuring and comparing to other children and using the last known photos of the children. When the last two bodies were recovered it was tested against the other samples known to be the tsar and his wife and were than was confirmed they were in relation to being children to them, if reaserch shows when DNA testing was drastically improved that all children to the tsar is accounted for, the woman with similarties would infact be proven not the grand dutchess. anyone with similiar cases of having the same condition in the same foot is known, now if she was the only person in the world to have it than i would put weight on it however many people have the same condition.if you look further because i have a feeling you are only using google and sites as such for reasearch u will see that the 2 remains of alexi and either tatina,maria or anastaia( since they do not know which it was) were laid to rest at the orthodox church with the family. The entire famiy using mitochondrial DNA was found and is now together, so anna anderson is infact not the grand dutchess anastasia.. links for u to check out...http://www.accessexcellence.org
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Avdonin
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2007/aug/25/russia.lukeharding

Anonymous said...

Why would a hospital in Charlottesville VA keep anyone's appendix for years? That is the tissue supposedly used for the DNA tests. I do not believe it. Hospitals do not save such tissue. Also, the person who donated his DNA was Prince Phillip, who would be a close relative of Anatasia. It is said that the Tzar deposited millions in the Bank of England. What if this were a hoax and that the DNA which was supposedly Anna Anderson's wasn't hers at all? What if there was a large of amount of money in the Bank of England>? Who would have gotten it? A Romanov, not a Windsor if Anna Anderson was Anastasia.
Also, the Tzar's mother fled with many family jewels which were purchased by Queen Mary at a fraction of their value. The present queen settled with the Romanov's in the 50s.
How convenient that the DNS matched a Polish factory worker. Maybe the DNA used as a control was obtained from her nephew?
Too many questions and too much money.

Anonymous said...

In regard to the halux valgus, that is not a determining factor. I have it myself and I know I am not Anastasia.

Steve Edge said...

So Much good research on this page. As someone who has studied this mystery for almost 40 years, I would say beyond all doubt that Anna Anderson was indeed The Grand Duchess Anastasia Nicolaievna of Russia. The DNA evidence was fraudulent and was designed only to release the Battenberg(Mountbatten) family from the guilt of having claimed monies in Berlin that were rightly the property of the Grand Duchess. The facts of better than 60 years of history cannot be erased with a fraudulent set of DNA results.

curious writer said...

If Anna is indeed Not Anastasia, then where did she get such vital information? Another patient? Possibly that of a lone survivor of that terrible tragedy? It boggles the mind of so many possibilities.

SvartKatt said...

Anna Anderson was definitely Franzisca Schanzkowska. That's why she could not speak Russian or English when she appeared on the scene, but only German. That's why she knew nothing about life at the Russian court, but invented her "memories". That's why nobody close to the real Anastasia did not recognize her, and that's why she did not recognize any of them. That's why she looked so much older than the real Anastasia. That's why her face, her ears, her hair, her feet and her handwriting were different.

Anonymous said...

U should do more research..anna anderson spoke french,english and understood russian just refused to speak it. Unless she stalked that family..theres no way to know the things she did. And dna? They had less than 20% of a skeleton when last two were found..the bodies were burned and soaked in sulfuric acid..can u say contaminated?! If anna was her..i guarantee they didnt want anyone knowing. I feel so sad about that family dying the way they did! And the place where the familu was so cowardly murdered is now a museum for anyone there can just walk around like a whole family didnt get massacred there! It should be a memorial not a cash box for the greedy pathetic people that use sad stories like this to make money or fame!! Disgusting!! Make that money..but u cant take it with u to heaven!!

SvartKatt said...

Anonymous, YOU are the one who should do the research, you are completely out to lunch! Franzisca spoke no English, no French, only German when she appeared on the scene in 1920. She did understand Russian with some difficulty, but in spite of lessons from Baron Von Kleist and Frau Rathlef, she never managed to speak the language. In spite of her telling people that she had been speaking Russian for two years with her "rescuers". And what did she know? Nothing that had not been published or told her by others. In fact, she told so many invented "memories" that it is almost embarrassing to read. And the DNA is the final nail in Anna Anderson's coffin. Like it or not!

Anonymous said...

I am just reading Anastasia by James Lair Lovell, before all the DNA-speak. I still believe Anna Anderson was Anastasia. The whorls of her ears were identical to the true princess, as well as other physicl features.

I was convinced long ago when I saw her on Johnny Carson. She was not imperious in the way an imposter would have been, but in a more subtle way - she had what my grandmother would have called "bearing." She really didn't seem to care at all what people thought.Sadly, she herself contributed to the mystery.

It is an irony and also a clue that her name itself means resurrection - one who has come back from the dead. I learnbed this in my teens attending a Russian Orthodox Easter. At midnight the celebrants greet each other with, "Christ is risen", two times and on the third, "indeed." the word used is a variant of Anastasia!It is as if God, who knows the end from the beginning, had named her. But we shall not until the Princely reign of our Christ who is risen indeed, the highest Czar of all.


SvartKatt said...

Anynomous, you really have to do your homework. Lovell's book is not a very good book about Franzisca Schanzkowska, the author even admitted to certain inventions. As for the ears, read Bischoff's report from 1927, and you will see that the ears of Franzisca and Anastasia were very much different. As Franzisca said: You mean who I am, or who I pretend to be?

ChaplinsSmile said...
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ChaplinsSmile said...

Anna Anderson was not Grand Duchess Anastasia. Grand Duchess Anastasia perished with her family at the hands of the Bolsheviks in 1918. One look at Fraulien Unbekkant in the Daldorf Asylum shows that pathetic creature had no resemblance whatsoever to the Grand Duchess. Clara Puethert put that idea in Ms. Shanzkowski's head. If you read Yurovky's reports, it is impossible that anyone survived the massacre. The only survivor was Tsarevitch Alexei's pet spaniel Joy who he left upstairs that fateful night.Grand Duchess Anastasia brought her dog Jemmy to the basement and he perished with her. I picked up the book: Anastasia, the Riddle of Anna Anderson By Peter Kurth 30 years ago and took one look at the Daldorf photos and laughed and closed the book. Ridiculous.

SvartKatt said...

Just a few corrections: Fräulein Unbekannt told nurse Thea Malinovsky already in 1921 that she was Anastasia. Clara Peuthert "recognized" her in 1922 as Tatiana. The dog Jemmy was actually Tatiana's dog, given to her by Anna Vyrubova before WWI.

Anonymous said...

A good point.

Anonymous said...

I may not have known about the Romanovs much but in my opinion I think that Anna Anderson is not. I repeat not Anastasia. 2, if Anastasia and her brother did escape then they could have rename them selves and better name. I have research in a book that an author wrote say the some of the left over jewels they had have been sew on their corsets and some clothing of theirs.

Anonymous said...

I agree with hours of research I concluded (this is my opinion) that Anna Anderson is NOT Anastasia. DNA testings have proved it false. Also while she was in the mental institution it has been reported that she read magazines about the Romanov family and one of the inmate said she looked like Marina (Anastasia's older sister) probably started the whole thing. Yes they did look alike and have a similar foot problem but that means very little in comparison to DNA and mtDNA. I believe that Ana Anderson just happened to be in the right place at the right time.

Brought to you by,
A 13 year old with a 4.0

Anonymous said...

I agree with you the mtDNA (for folks that have no knowledge of mtDNA it is a type of DNA you would get from your female parent,your mom) Prince Philip (had the same mtDNA as the Romanov family) gave a sample of his and scientists used some of Anna Anderson's and they indeed did not match. With that information you do not even have to look at the fact that the body that is Anastasia's and Anna Anderson's DNA
DIDN'T match either.
From,
100% NERD

Anonymous said...

someone, please tell me that what alternate theory is given on the true fate of Princess Anatasia??

bilybim said...

Anna Anderson was not Anastasia, contradict differing proportions of the face.

http://tschaikovska.blogspot.cz/2016/02/anna-anderson-v-porovnani-s-marii.html

Features and proportions of the face of Anna Anderson correspond to face Maria Romanov! Anna Anderson is substantially similar only Maria Romanov.

With photo Franziska Schanzkowska was graphically manipulated. Forger painted eyes.

Anonymous said...

I remember reading from a Russian source that the Tsar had possibly a fifth daughter and this was hussed up, because they were still at that time wanting/lacking a male heir to the throne. Perhaps, she was given to a Polish family, the Schanzkowskis? Who knows? What I do know is that the whole account of the murder doesn't ring true, and the two missing bodies were reburied from wherever they had been buried before. The head murderer, said he killed the Czar with an American pistol, which according to US Army records was in America at the time... The whole episode is a huge cover-up involving all the UK, US and Germany, as well as Russia.

Anonymous said...

There is indeed a coverup, Russian peasants (including Poles under Russian domination) couldn't even read or write in those days. Miss Franziska Schwanzkowska must have been extra special. I think the Romanovs were murdered, but not at the same time (even year) or place. It's funny how British, German spies all watched the Ipatiev House, even possibly US agents as well. Something does ring true with the differing accounts from the killers, most of whom used to meet up regularly in a hotel each year - these are the ones whose versions are more alike, strange, isn't it?

SvartKatt said...

What on earth do Poles or Russians have to do with Franzisca Schanzkowska? She was a German national, born in West Prussia. She did very well in school and actually finished her last semester 6 months before her classmates.

Anonymous said...

The family was worth $300 billion in today's money do you really think any country would admit to her being the Daugher just fake it. That's a lot of money to pay up

SvartKatt said...

The family was worth very little. All their money had been withdrawn from European banks to help pay for the war. Only a tidbit was found in Germany later. After their arrest, everything went to the state except for lots of jewels that were not found, hidden in their clothing, until after the execution.

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Anonymous said...

I have been doing a school paper about this, and I first I thought that Anna Anderson was in fact Anastasia. But then I've been doing tons of research from different sites, and even though Anna and Anastasia had a bunch of things in common, I doubt it that Anna Anderson was the missing Grand Duchess. I know that the Romanov family had a tragic death, but it wouldn't make sense to leave Anastasia and Alexei alive, they would still be a threat, especially Alexei.

bilybim said...

Anna Anderson was not similar Anastasia Romanov, Anastasia was significantly smaller than Anna . .... http://tschaikovska.blogspot.cz/

Anna/Maria.. https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B-cBD5JUJ_aESlF1QURLTnExd2s?usp=sharing

............ https://cz.pinterest.com/retromanie/anna-anderson-alias-anastasia-tschaikovsky-maria-r/?eq=anna%20a&etslf=37462

Anna Anderson corresponds to the height and shape of Maria Romanov

SvartKatt said...

Anonymous, what did Anna Anderson and Anastasia have in common? A pair of blue eyes and Hallux Valgus on their feet? That's hardly "a bunch". Maybe you did not did "tons of research" after all.

Anonymous said...

SvartKatt, now that I think about it, it isn't very much. I do agree with you, but I have spent many hours trying to find proof from different sites but I can't really believe everything that is written off the internet. I know that Anna Anderson was certainly not Anastasia even though they did have some similarities in reality, it just proved that people were desperate to believe in miracles.

Anonymous said...

Some of these comments are great memes.
It was just a great coincidence that they were similar, Anastasia and Anderson are not the same person.

And to the person who pointed out that it's obvious because Anastasia and Anna both start with 'An'... well you're a genius, eh, not an assumed identity or anything

bilybim said...

Anastasia and Anderson are not the same person !

Anna Anderson was not similar Anastasia Romanov ! ..........See photo :
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B-cBD5JUJ_aEb01CYjBhd3pRQ3M?usp=sharing


Anna Anderson was significantly similar to Maria Romanov.....See photo :
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B-cBD5JUJ_aEa1RnYlNDZU9UcVE?usp=sharing

In the photo, sisters Maria and Anastasia is seen that Hallux valgus have two sisters ......See photo : https://drive.google.com/drive/my-drive

Maria and Anna have the same gap-toothed ...............................See: photo :
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-cBD5JUJ_aEd3VVemZ0Z21Tb0E/view?usp=sharing


bilybim said...


I do not understand that people do research on the possibility that Anna Anderson was to be Anastasia, and none of them did not look closely at the photos!? Anastasia was never similar to Anna Anderson! And I do not understand that no one noticed the similarity Maria Romanov and Anna Anderson?

SvartKatt said...

Actually, Franzisca Schanzkowska and Grand Duchess Anastasia did look a little alike. In some photos, they do look like the same person. Don't forget that both the Botkin children were fooled into believing that Franzisca was Anastasia. And Grand Duke Andrew found a "great family resemblance" in her features. Anastasia's cousin, Xenia Leeds, was convinced that Franzisca was her lost cousin, and Lily Dehn also believed that Franzisca was the real McCoy. So don't make fun of the ones who compare photos and find positive results.

bilybim said...

There is only one photo Franziska Schanzkowska !

... https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-cBD5JUJ_aEYkF2QkpjX0lkN1U/view?usp=sharing

On the original photos Franziska can not distinguish the exact facial features. The photo is blurred ! Later publicly shared photos of Franziska is illustrated with eyes, nose and mouth.

... https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-cBD5JUJ_aEcjMzcDZQR1Jlc2s/view?usp=sharing

Original eyes, nose and mouth in the photo Franziska have a different shape.

... https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-cBD5JUJ_aEbm9rWkxwbTRBdm8/view?usp=sharing

Author Greg King books about evidence that Franziska was Anna Anderson, used in his book, has been graphically modified original photo Franziska. All the other evidence in the book are questionable photo discrediting !

bilybim said...

When you look closely at the face of Franziska on the original image and Anna Anderson are different features in the face!

Similarity of Anna Anderson and Franziska S. do not specify in the original photograph!

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-cBD5JUJ_aEVElGdnNSanZzMmc/view?usp=sharing

When you look closely at the figure Franziska on the original image and the figure Anna Anderson are considerably different.

Anna Anderson in any case could not be Anastasia, Anastasia is a figure considerably smaller.

Franziska in any case could not be Anna Anderson, Anna Anderson is a figure considerably higher.

... https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-cBD5JUJ_aEUU1mR043T3JZd28/view?usp=sharing

... https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-cBD5JUJ_aEN3J3N1RSLWNmT0U/view?usp=sharing

Franziska Schanzkowska case is not credible!

SvartKatt said...

Yes, Franzisca Schanzkowska case is absolutely credible.
1. Doris Rosa Wingender recognized her from a photo in "Die Woche".
2. Franzisca's mother recognized her from photos of Anna Anderson.
3. Her brother Felix recognized her on sight.
4. Her fellow renters in her apartment building recognized her from photos of AA.
5. Her fellow class mates and teachers recognized her from photos of AA.
6. Her mitochondrial DNA had the exact same sequence as her niece and grand nephew.
No way around this.

bilybim said...

1. Original photo Franzisca Schanzkowska proves that the photo was manipulated and this blurred photos is not clear whether Anna Anderson really similar Franzisca.
2. Members of the family have changed several times Schanzkowska testimony, initially they said that it is not Franziska. Their testimony is under the weight of that time, fascism and political pressures implausibly
3. Brother Felix was not sure, refer to point 1.
4. and 5. If they were already shown graphically edited photos Franziska, their testimony was manipulated, from the original photos Franzsiky these witnesses could not recognize this fact.
6. Anna Anderson never failed to provide his DNA, obtained DNA from hair found in the estate of Anna is not sufficiently verifiable source of DNA. Hair could be anyone.
DNA obtained from the removed appendices allegedly from Anna Anderson's fairy tale story. Withdrawals human organs are kept only on medical grounds. DNA from the operation itself until the time when it was examined, lay preserved in the hospital for many years. Strange!

Yes, there is no way to know the truth because it is tampered with facts, and the public, researchers are deliberately directed to the wrong understanding of the case.

bilybim said...

Anna Anderson in comparison with the family of Romanov :
http://tschaikovska.blogspot.cz/2016/02/anna-anderson-v-porovnani-s-rodem.html

Anna Anderson is similar to The Grand Duchesses of Russia Olga Alexandrovna. Mother Franziska is similar, only the older Anne Anderson because they lack teeth and have sunken jaw.
......https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-cBD5JUJ_aEaFFTSklsQkJYSzQ/view?usp=sharing
Mother Franziska has not fallen eyelid, which is typical for the Romanovs.
......http://tschaikovska.blogspot.cz/2016/02/pripad-franziska-schanzkowska.html

Anna Anderson not it similar to Julia Schanzkowska
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-sH-BTM09amI/VtgSe9ppHQI/AAAAAAAAIIw/uJgR1uByJjU/s1600/rrvv.jpg

All information about this case primarily comparative photos have one source : Alexander Palace Forums. This comparison photos from this source is handling and inaccurate!
I see no similarity between Felix, Karl and Anna Anderson
Karl Maucher (Franziska's great-nephew)
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-cBD5JUJ_aEalB0emFnZElPV1E/view?usp=sharing

I do not think there was any Waltraud Schanzkowska.

SvartKatt said...

You are not very well informed, are you!! The DNA came from a sample taken from Franzisca Schantzkowska (aka Anna Anderson) when operated on by Dr. Shrum in 1979. The sample was kept in the forensic department at Martha Jefferson's Hospital as all samples are. If the patient would need treatment later, the earlier sample would be a valuable source in diagnosing the condition of the patient. When examining the sample from Franzisca, Dr. Shrum cut slices from it to put under the microscope to determine if there was cancer or not. These slices were kept in the pathology department of Martha Jefferson's Hospital. When the sample was pulled out for examination 15 yyears later, it was compared with the slices cut by Dr. Shrum in 1979. There was a perfect match. One year earlier, hair was found by Susan Grindstaff at a bookstore on Chapel Hill. Mrs. Grindstaff's husband worked in a DNA laboratory, and knew how to keep the hair in the right condition until testing. When tested for DNA, both the hair and the intestine sample both came up with the same DNA sequence. End of story.

SvartKatt said...

As for not believing there was no Waltraud Schanzkowska, you better read the book "Almost Anastasia". And a course in writing English would also benefit you.

bilybim said...


Where do you get the certainty that inormace ohedně DNA samples are true? In the hospital I worked at tissue samples is examined cytology, cancer etc. during patient treatment. Samples are certainly not kept for 15 years, it would have to be within a study, and it would have to pay someone. Over the life of Anne herself would certainly not allow it. I have no reason to believe the book argmentům. Even author Greg King, used in his book graphically edited photo Franziska. Why do not use poor-quality original photos Franziska? How can you be sure that the hair in the book were Anna ?

Franziska is not at all similar to the genus Schanzkowska, Julia is quite different. Only one photo can not determine the identity of another individual! The whole case with Franziska storytelling. Photos to prove it, anyone can write anything. Anna Anderson could hardly be Franziska Schanzkowska when they both (according to photos) different height, eyes, mouth and nose!

I use Google translator, I am Czech and English do not need to know.
Yet apology for possible inaccuracies in English, Google is in this bad friend!

The story does not stop, on the contrary, under the weight of inaccuracies, lies and manipulations should definitely continue! Will not lie!

bilybim said...


Why is publicly used photographs Franziska, where he has covered his eyes so that was similar to Anna Anderson? Why pužívají edited photo and writers and scholars?
Why not apply to evidence the original photos Franziska? Why the whole world listens to the stories of survivors Carlos Mundy Anastasia, when Annie has never been similar? How is it possible that nobody notices marked similarities Anerson Anna and Maria Romanov? It not seen the family of the Romanovs, Botkin etc.? I am not arguing that Anna Anderson was Maria Romanov, just do not understand the similarities and all the lies about the case Franziska!

bilybim said...

Why pužívají edited photo and writers and scholars?
repair :
Why use your edited photo and writers and scholars?

SvartKatt said...

I realize that you are so hung up on a photo that presenting DNA evidence to you is useless. But just for the fun of it: DNA from a sample at Martha Jefferson Hospital had the same mitochondrial DNA as Gertrude Ellerik and her son. DNA from a hair sample from Anna Anderson had the same mitochondrial DNA as Gertrude Ellerik and her son. Got it? Also, Martha Jefferson Hospital opened a new pathology laboratory in 1979, and everything was kept there since the opening. Nobody could have tampered with the sample since the slices from it cut in 1979 and preserved in another location, showed a perfect match when found in 1993. In other words, there is NOTHING that you can come up with to fight this scientific evidence. Nothing!

bilybim said...

You did not answer the questions based on what you think is objective truth. You're saying that Franziska is similar to Anna Anderson, and that many people are confirmed by the photos. I see that picture and similarity there can not identify, you can not know from blurry photos and shape the identity of another person, it is nonsense. If you do not answer, I can not believe the information about DNA! Why should I believe anything that someone describes and what is written by one author in the book. Where are the medical report, which is the testimony of doctors etc.

I do not fight with scientific evidence, I do not consider information about certain tests in a hospital somewhere in the book of scientific evidence. I trust my senses and see that a photo has been tampered with Franziska and supplemented, so that was similar to Anna Anderson. This is enough doubt that casts a shadow on the whole mistrust.

bilybim said...

Try to answer these questions, just so it makes sense to continue the discussion. How can I believe Greg King book The Resurrection of the Romanovs: Anastasia, Anna Anderson, and the World's Greatest Mystery Royal and other books, do not know the motives of the authors and not when this book uses rigged photo Farnzisky.

SvartKatt said...

The photo was not "tampered" with, it was retouched to make it clearer after it was enlarged. It was given to Martin Knopf by Franzisca's mother, who also recognized her daughter from other photos of Anna Anderson. What you see, is totally irrelevant. As for the DNA, there are scientific reports about the DNA available on the web. Here is one for your perusal: http://www.nature.com/ng/journal/v9/n1/abs/ng0195-9.html

bilybim said...

Franziska image is illustrated, original eyes, nose and mouth have a different shape. It is probably not whether it was similar Franziska Anna Anderson and nobody could under the original photos to determine the similarity between the two women. If it has been determined by the completed photos were already dubious identification and handling. Original woman looks different from Anna Anderson, you can enlarge the original photo and attach eyes, nose and mouth of photos accompanied. They're completely different shapes.

Information page about DNA research says nothing about the fact that these women have a significantly different height photographs. Handling in this case is more than political issue.

bilybim said...

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-cBD5JUJ_aEUU1mR043T3JZd28/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-cBD5JUJ_aEb2dwbTBMajVvM0E/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-cBD5JUJ_aEcjMzcDZQR1Jlc2s/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-cBD5JUJ_aEbm9rWkxwbTRBdm8/view?usp=sharing

Franziska is a completely different person has different characteristics in the face and stockier figure podstaně shorter legs. Franziska has a different shape of eyes, a different shape of the nose and mouth than the Anna Anderson.

bilybim said...

Franziska on the original photo has a wider nose than edited photo Franziska! Anna Anderson has a narrower nose than Franziska has the original photograph!¨

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-cBD5JUJ_aEeFFDZEVqMy1xOFU/view?usp=sharing


Anne Anderson's eyes are completely different than your eyes on the modified photo Franziska. Franziska eyes to the original picture are different than the eyes of Anna Anderson.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-cBD5JUJ_aEZDlVN1dIWEJ1Tk0/view?usp=sharing

SvartKatt said...

Go ahead with your fantasy. Who cares.

bilybim said...

You arrogant just because you do not have the answers.

How is it possible that Anna Anderson has a narrower nose with nostrils than Franziska has the original photo? Answer, otherwise you are a victim of your imagination you, unfortunately.

bilybim said...

Franziska to photograph from around 1913 is more advanced and considerably older than when Anna Anderson in a photo from 1920 for a girl's youthful appearance. How this is possible in respect of the same person?

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-cBD5JUJ_aEVFZ3SlZvZEhLUkk/view?usp=sharing

bilybim said...

I do not understand why they are here and Web addresses assumption that Anna Anderson was Ananstasia Romanov. In any case, she could not! Both ears of Anna Anderson prove that ear Anastasia Romanov is completely different.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-cBD5JUJ_aEZUdOWGYxU0FFVUU/view?usp=sharing

Mudenge Mukundwa said...

I wholeheartedly agree with you

bilybim said...

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-cBD5JUJ_aEcnhueFhEWXJEQ0U/view?usp=sharing ....I found both ears and Anastasia is absolutely evident that Anna Aderson not be Anastasia Romanov. Above all, they have a different angle of bulkhead into the inner ear.